Posting the initial Discord thread by Der Link below for more in depth conversation and so that this doesnt get buried on Discord
I agree and do not agree personally with his statement. Firstly, Peter is speaking on his own behalf, from his structuralist point of view and does not need to be agreed by those within TZM. That being said, I would highly recommend to those with any land to explore the possibilities, to develop a better understanding of where the things arriving on your table come from and have a different relationship to food in general. This current age of civilisation we live in appears to be extremely ignorant and incapable of understaupnding the process of where nourishment comes from - something that our ancestors seemed to have a very keen understanding of for a great majority of the history of homo-sapiens. That is not to say that they always had the healthiest diets, but they at least understood how to cultivate food, whether that being in the time of hunter-gather times or the more recent agricultural revolution. There was a strong spiritual connection or hence just a basic understanding.
The argument is that people have become so insanely disconnected of how food is produced that there is no gratitude, no honour and no shame with how it is consumed or hence produced. This could also be a very critical point made by vegans as well for those not understanding how meat and dairy products are created for the masses.
Now where I agree with Peter is exactly what he stated, that not everybody has land to exercise permaculture or starting their own farms. It is also a lot of work and ordinary people that have complex jobs or a have a day plan with much to do, kids to take care, etc - they would not even consider have the responsibility of producing their own food. It is too at odds modern culture for them. Though that is not true for everyone that they would not make time. As mentioned, some just do not have the resources to carry it out.
This is why Peter proposes vertical farming, for it is a solution that can provide for the masses (we are living in huge populations than earlier) as well as Peter’s proposal of vertical farming is one that is automated which in turn requires much from the community to attend in theory. So this would more or less be a solution for everyone having instant access to food, lessening the some of the hard work that can be required by traditional gardening or permaculture.
The other problem is that in a country like Iceland for example, we naturally do not have suitable soil for growing things here. Also the weather is very brutal and we have very limited sunlight or the adequate temperatures for things to grow here. The Vikings also stumbled onto this problem with so “safety-net” so to say and starvation was a problem during the early period of the settlements. So permaculture would be more than challenging to cultivate here.
Vertical farming is being highly promoted in Iceland, for it would help Iceland gain strong independence from needing imports from other countries. This is already starting to happen with the production of huge greenhouses outside of Reykjavík.
Also for anyone in Iceland that would like to take on their own food production, hydroponics and aquaponics would be some of the most ideal things to look into, for they call all be done indoors for anyone that has the space. Greenhouses as mentioned are a thing - but keep in mind that you most likely will be using soil created from England, Germany or Denmark and nothing locally.
If it seems like I agree with everything Peter says, this is where I counter the part of just letting humans live like f**king tourist as Birgitta Jónsdóttir said recently during Z-Day last year. That just replacing the current means for people to be mindless consumers all the time, even if it is mechanised, is not a winning solution in my book. People show grow better empathy and compassion for how they nourish themselves. Though some may say it does not matter. Whatever fills their bellys.